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Post by Wyndi on Jan 5, 2015 4:21:32 GMT
The official idea thread for all your potential HP rps! Please recycle for future rp discussion so there aren't multiples floating around.
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So continuing off what we were discussing in the general ideas thread: Salem vs. Mahoutokoro?
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Post by Mini on Jan 5, 2015 4:24:48 GMT
As stated before, my vote goes for Salem.
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Post by Wyndi on Jan 5, 2015 4:33:30 GMT
I really want to do Mahoutokoro, so that's slightly ahead of Salem. (Fine with both, though!)
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Post by mdf2711 on Jan 5, 2015 5:04:23 GMT
Ughhhh, wanna do both so bad it hurts! But I don't know how to choose. Personally, I'd likely be better equipped for an American-centric rp but Japan could be so fun! And especially if it's the only school in the East Asian area, leading to a blend of Chinese, Korean, Japanese cultures and others like Vietnamese and Singaporean~ Hmmm, Fish?
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Post by dracoon on Jan 5, 2015 5:47:20 GMT
Ughhhh, wanna do both so bad it hurts! But I don't know how to choose. Personally, I'd likely be better equipped for an American-centric rp but Japan could be so fun! And especially if it's the only school in the East Asian area, leading to a blend of Chinese, Korean, Japanese cultures and others like Vietnamese and Singaporean~ Hmmm, Fish? looks @ you deeply I'm here but damn. Chinese itself has so many dialects and the spells in general would be really convoluted if cast by speech :c
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Post by Wyndi on Jan 5, 2015 6:04:35 GMT
Well, if Rowling thinks one school is enough for all of Africa... i'm so bitter about this I'M SO SORRY
Anyway, I think it'd be interesting but highly unlikely given certain government tensions. Both China and Japan went through periods where isolationism was the norm, for example, and boy, if China and Korea hadn't formed their own magical schools long before the 1940s, WWII-era Japan would've sealed the deal for sure (thanks, imperialism!). (To give you a sense of how deeply rooted anti-Japanese sentiment runs because of what happened in Nanjing: I wasn't even allowed to read manga when I was younger because manga obviously comes from Japan, and buying manga would've meant economically supporting Japan one way or another. My parents were absolutely scandalized when I continued reading it on the sly.)
I think there's a good argument to be made that at least the Big Three (China, Japan, and Korea) would each have their own schools due to a) how far back their history runs, and b) each country's tensions with the other two.
edit haha oh man, and drac's right on with the linguistic differences too. No Chinese family would send their only son off to a Japanese school with only Japanese spells....
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Post by dracoon on Jan 5, 2015 6:07:08 GMT
I think there's a good argument to be made that at least the Big Three (China, Japan, and Korea) would each have their own schools due to a) how far back their history runs, and b) each country's tensions with the other two. I think ^ is more plausible. Also it'll make sense for the Chinese branches like HK kids and Taiwanese to attend the Chinese school. /dreamy sighing about ancient Korean imperialistic structures
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Post by Wyndi on Jan 5, 2015 6:14:51 GMT
I think there's a good argument to be made that at least the Big Three (China, Japan, and Korea) would each have their own schools due to a) how far back their history runs, and b) each country's tensions with the other two. I think ^ is more plausible. Also it'll make sense for the Chinese branches like HK kids and Taiwanese to attend the Chinese school. /dreamy sighing about ancient Korean imperialistic structures HAHAHAHA HK, MACAU, TAIWAN, TIBET....The taboo-est of taboo subjects.
For Hong Kong and Macau, I imagine that they'd use more European-style magic due to their years under British and Portuguese rule. Post-return to China, though, I'm not so sure. Since their cultures are more of a hybrid bent, maybe there'd be very small branch schools in those cities? Same with Taiwan - perhaps there was a local branch of the Chinese magical school there, but in recent years, the Taiwanese magical government has reclaimed it for their own and cut ties with mainland China. I don't think branch schools would be so unlikely, given the high population density of China: there's no way one school would accomodate all the regions.
A round of fresh imperialism for everyone!
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Post by fishstyx on Jan 5, 2015 23:04:00 GMT
Although I honestly like the thought of Asia better, I think that starting with something like Salem is just easier. Basing it off of Wyndi's experiences, it just makes sense to stick with America, so I agree with Miles. Let's do Salem then. (That's my vote not like an actual decision or anything sorry.)
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Post by Wyndi on Jan 6, 2015 3:32:35 GMT
Okay, if that's the general consensus, I'm fine with switching my vote over to Salem as well! (I live in Massachusetts, so personal pride point there, haha.)
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Post by mdf2711 on Jan 6, 2015 4:18:12 GMT
Wyndi, you live in Massachussetts?! And here I thought you were somewhere in Asia this entire time. I mean, you did grow up there at least, right? You don't talk about your life irl much on here (which I respect) but I never would have dreamed East Coast so wow, that surprises me...
Anyway, I digress. Salem it seems it is then. So there's a lot of rich history to choose from but when exactly would the academy have been constructed (I would assume it would have to be after the witch trials for obvious reasons but maybe with homage to them)? And how do we want to do house sorting (or not)? Like I discussed prior, I've seen a lot of different ways including just different traits and signups and we could even make our own ideas, possibly based on the history we decide on?
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Post by Wyndi on Jan 6, 2015 4:35:30 GMT
Wyndi, you live in Massachussetts?! And here I thought you were somewhere in Asia this entire time. I mean, you did grow up there at least, right? You don't talk about your life irl much on here (which I respect) but I never would have dreamed East Coast so wow, that surprises me... Anyway, I digress. Salem it seems it is then. So there's a lot of rich history to choose from but when exactly would the academy have been constructed (I would assume it would have to be after the witch trials for obvious reasons but maybe with homage to them)? And how do we want to do house sorting (or not)? Like I discussed prior, I've seen a lot of different ways including just different traits and signups and we could even make our own ideas, possibly based on the history we decide on? Nope, I am American-born! I'm guessing that clears up some of the confusion you had a while back in regards as to why I'm so bad at my mother tongue. :p Hard to be totally fluent when you're not immersed in the language. EAST COAST 4 LYFE
I will do more research before I offer up plausible dates, but as for "houses," maybe a house for each of the first three women accused of witchcraft in the Salem Trials? So House Tituba, House (Sarah) Good, and House (Sarah) Osborne?
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Post by mdf2711 on Jan 6, 2015 5:26:58 GMT
Those would be fantastic ideas for house names if one of them wasn't Good and inherently would be used to justify one as better than the rest or the others to be characterized mistakenly as evil or something. I could just really see that being a problem. However, these women, while the first to be accused of witchcraft, actually were only sent to prison for their crimes, so I wouldn't exactly consider them to have made an ultimate sacrifice or anything though. Actually, since the one school represents/teaches all of America presumably, what if it was created after the Trials at the location as a tribute to the historic persecution of their kind in the New World and to show how important it was to create a safe educational place for youngsters to grow up in and learn to defend themselves and hone their abilities? And if that's the case, wouldn't it be interesting if we draw from many different types and historical figures for the houses (and branches of magic taught) such as historical figures pertinent to Creole culture and voodoo/vodou/hoodoo and shamanism in Native American cultures and colonial-Mexico's own witch trials and I don't know what else but does that sound alright or should we just go with Wyndi's suggestion? Just trying to present more options~
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Post by Kaiser on Jan 6, 2015 5:45:02 GMT
I want in in the RP! Though I'm not exactlly familiar with witch-craft(?) history on the US, I do think both ideas are well founded, on one side having the houses named after "witches" of Salem makes it a perfect fit for a school based on that same town. But on the other side, giving diversity would be one of the fisrt and probably most important interests of those who founded the school, so having the houses named after different types of magic/magic believes would be a good idea as well. Maybe something along the lines of both? Houses named after a famous, person who practiced said types of magic? Like for a traditional magic house, one of the witches of Salem, for voodoo somebody who is popular in new orleans/creole/haitian myths? And so on maybe?
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Post by Mini on Jan 6, 2015 19:28:36 GMT
Somehow it seems odd to me that Salem would serve ALL of North America, but then again who knows...
Could also do House Corey for Giles Corey if we want to avoid House Good. I do like the idea of drawing from other types of magic (ie voodoo) that Kaiser mentioned!
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