Wyndi/Kurutto Planning Thread

[Kurutto]

Here's a space for Wyndi and me to plan for our advanced literate 1×1 role-play. Cheers!

I think our best course of action is to outline ideas for our four fandoms, and whichever idea we get the most involved with, that's going to be the direction our role-play should most likely take.

What we know for certain:
- This will either center around a female/female relationship, or include it within the grand scheme of the plot.

Fandom ideas:
- Pokémon
- Harry Potter
- Mortal Instruments
- Death Note

Regarding Pokémon:
- Should our characters be in one of the criminal organizations?

- Maybe our characters are both training under a certain gym leader.

- Maybe they are members of the Elite Four but are utterly bored due to a lack of (good) challengers, so they decide to do something about that boredom.

- Perhaps the RP can involve Pokémon mythology, religion, or mysticism.

Regarding Harry Potter:
- ??

- All I know is that I would want it to occur before or after Voldemort happens.

Regarding: Mortal Instruments:
- ??

- Personally, I would like to use a character of a species other than Human or Shadowhunter.

Regarding Death Note:
- ??

- A shinigami/human relationship would be way out there...

- We could play two shinigami?

- I would personally advise against an L vs. Kira scenario.



What do you think about my ideas? Let’s discuss them and any ideas you may have.

[Wyndi]

How...did you do that entire post via mobile!?


re: Pokémon -

I would be okay with our OCs being in one of the criminal organizations, but tbh I'm not familiar with any of them past Gen III. Speaking of that, though, it might be fun to have one of our OCs be in Team Magma and the other be in Aqua. Depends on what we want the tone to be, though, since I have trouble taking Magma and Aqua seriously. lol

I'd also enjoy seeing the two of them training with a Gym Leader, although that might limit the age range we can use.

Anything involving mythology would require more complex planning before we actually get to the roleplay. Probably not the best idea for either of us, since we're both busy!


re: Harry Potter -

want it to occur before or after Voldemort happens.

So..any time? Or did you mean something else?

I personally wouldn't mind a Marauders era roleplay. Fun times with anti-Muggle sentiment all around.


re: The Mortal Instruments -

I have no preference for species, but as the books really focused on Shadowhunters, I agree it'd be nice to explore the Downworlder side of things. If we can narrow down what species, it might be easier to come up with a plot. warlocksssss


re: Death Note -

Hm...kind of ehh about a shinigami/human relationship. I know Ryuk and Rem were fairly humanoid, but canonically a lot of the other shinigami are blobmonsters. I mean, our OCs could be into that, I guess....

But I agree - we should avoid recreating the L vs. Kira saga. I don't think I'd be clever or creative enough to pull any of their schemes off, even in writing!

If we play two shinigami, I assume it'd have to be in the human world? In which case they'd need a dropped Death Note to keep them interested. What about a situation opposite to L vs. Kira, where the two people who find the Death Notes are best friends? They could treat their unique situation as just another experience to bond over...until something goes wrong.

Alternatively, it'd be interesting to play two OCs living in the post-Kira world. Crime count severely reduced, but people living in fear of being watched and reported - that kind of dystopian twist.

[Kurutto]

Bahaha, I was at a football game, and as I am, personally, more creative than athletic, I found myself bored and in need of some artistic stimulation. I thought I'd jump start the board as soon as possible.

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Re: Pokémon

Well, the Team Aqua/Magma dynamic isn't too unique or uncommon. It's been done in the games, and also I've done it in a different RP. While it's a fine topic, it's nothing new for me, so it's at the bottom of my preference list. If we do this one, then we can simply spin it with a certain tone, as you suggested -- maybe we're going to try to make a fool out of those teams somehow.

Limits the age range how? If you mean that the characters would most likely be younger, then I would prefer a different topic. I feel like people engaged in relations as this should be at least older than 16, haha. We could avoid that problem better if we were to place them within the Elite Four.

You've got an excellent point regarding the mythology.

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Regarding: Harry Potter
I meant any time in which Voldemort is not alive and/or active. Basically, a universe where either Voldemort hasn't been born yet or hasn't risen to power yet -- or after he's passed away.

In a Marauders-era role-play, would Voldemort be alive, but not active?

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Regarding: The Mortal Instruments
I think working with warlocks would be fantastic! You think we should limit ourselves to one species (warlocks) or two species (you take a character of one species, and I take another character of a different species)?

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Regarding: Death Note
Plenty of the Shinigami are humanoid... I can only think of really two that are more blobby/animal like. But if you don't like this one, we can focus on better ideas.

I was thinking more along the lines of originality, but that's a good point, too. Ahaha, same!

For the situation opposite L vs. Kira, that would be interesting, but I feel like I've done this before... Except the two friends are, well, friends on the surface, but enemies as the two Death Note wielders -- but they aren't aware that the other is their enemy. Since I've done that, I'd have to opt for a different idea.

That would be interesting! But would people just still be paranoid after Kira dies, or would there be another Kira? Or a bunch of Kira supporters took over the government in one location? They wouldn't have the power, though, of course... Not that I know of, at least... xD

[Wyndi]

re: Pokémon

Yes, most of the Gym Leaders are fairly young themselves, so the other Trainers under their tutelage are often around the same age. We could just choose an older Leader, though - or as you suggested, put them in the Elite Four.


re: HP

Ohhh, gotcha. So anything between 1970-1998 is out, unless you'd rather we focus on another magical community entirely.

I believe Voldemort was slowly rising to power during the Marauders' years at school: some of Snape's classmates had been looking forward to joining up with the Death Eaters, according to Lily. Either way, life would've been relatively dangerous for anyone with Muggle ancestry outside the walls of Hogwarts.


re: TMI

Having at least two different species would make things more interesting. Aside from warlocks, my other species of choice would be one of the fae. Not as invested in vampires (ugh) or werewolves.


re: DN

Really? It's been a while since I looked at the DN fanbook, but I seem to remember quite a few blobs with thousands of eyes. Whoops.

I think the DN epilogue mentioned that while the world was slowly returning to normal a few years after Kira's death, many of them (especially those that believed in or worshipped Kira) were still paranoid fanatics who were looking to Kira to save them. So the canon ending is pretty tame.

But there's an entire generation that grows up during Light's rise to infamy, and wouldn't it be interesting to play people that've grown up with warnings of "don't do bad things or Kira will kill you?" from parents and other authority figures. I imagine it'd be hard for people raised during those years to break out of that fearful mentality even after there are no more mysterious heart attacks. And in a way, I can see major political bodies taking advantage of that now culturally ingrained mentality and using Kira as their law enforcement figurehead.

[Kurutto]

RE: Pokémon
I doubt we need to increase the age of the gym leader -- that doesn't necessarily mean older pupils. But if the Elite Four members are typically older, then it would be fine for us to go in that direction.

If we were to do this, should we have two Elite Four members, or one Elite Four member and one challenger?

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RE: Harry Potter
Oooh, focusing on another magical community might actually be more interesting...

That makes sense! Nice job citing that specific instance in the books, too. We could make things harder for Muggles and go with this setting, but I want to avoid too much influence of canon characters, if at all possible. Or, we can change the setting entirely, as suggested earlier.

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RE: The Mortal Instruments
Vampires and Werewolves are overused, not to mention nonsensical. Too many people break the "rules" of vampires and werewolves as I've seen. Plus, the idea of the leaders being chosen after killing the old leader is unsettling. They follow this new leader without any psychological repercussions/complaint, it seems.

As for other species, I'm going to have to look through a list of them -- and maybe even think about species that haven't been mentioned in the book yet. That could be interesting.

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RE: Death Note
Haha, that does apply to one of them, but that's all I know of.

Ahh, I see!

That would be interesting! It's always nice to see the psychological repercussions from certain upbringings/settings. With this way this is going, are we not going to be using Death Notes? This kind of plot, too, might require more planning and complexity overall.

[Wyndi]

re: Pokémon

The E4 in Gens I-III were all at least past their teens. I'm not so sure about Gen IV and onwards. But if we were to do this, would we still be using your idea of one of the E4 being bored? Because there are two obvious tropes that we could use here, and I'd like to...avoid both of them.


re: HP

It would be fun, but unfortunately, JKR never revealed anything substantial about the non-British wizarding community. :/ So we'd be stuck worldbuilding for ages again.

It'd be pretty easy to avoid having our OCs interact with canons: just put them in different years, or have them be out of school by the time the Marauders are attending Hogwarts. We don't necessarily have to use Hogwarts as our setting, considering there was a lot more going on outside its walls during that time than inside. But that would fall into the whole Voldemort-being-active thing that you wanted to avoid.


re: TMI

In their defense, I'd be pretty willing to accept someone who'd just killed my former leader (presumably the strongest of the group), if only in fear of what might happen if I went up against them.

If we bring in species that haven't been mentioned in the book, then...doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of setting something in a TMI AU? At that point, it's more our world than TMI's.


re: DN

We actually still could bring in a Death Note or two. Like, what would happen if someone from Generation Kira (lol) found a notebook and eventually realized that this must've been the tool that Kira used?

[Kurutto]

Pokémon

It depends... What are the tropes you're thinking of? It would help if I knew so I could try my best to avoid them when planning.

Harry Potter

Ahh, right. Bummer.

Yeah, if we were to place the RP outside of Hogwarts, there would be more world-building, there, especially if we're trying to avoid getting into contact with Voldemort, though it would be interesting to change up the scenery/setting. We would have to do so in an easier manner than that world-building.

The Mortal Instruments

Yes, but that fear never really comes up. The way they approach it is nonchalant -- they do what they're told without demonstrating any mental repercussions, other than the clear issue of them accepting whatever comes in that way.

I don't think so; there's bound to be more out there than what we saw in the book. As long as we keep most of the elements the same, the introduction of new species shouldn't hurt.

Death Note

Would this be the same exact notebook, or a cop-off? If it's a cop-off, it would be strange for people to automatically know that it was a notebook that Kira used.

[Wyndi]

re: Pokémon

1. E4 disappears mid-battle, leaving behind a string of clues for their would-be challengers to solve. Only the one that finds them is worthy of battling them.
2. E4 fakes their own death, leaving behind a string of clues for their would-be challengers to solve. Only the one that finds them is worthy of battling them.

I mean, the E4 could also just disappear or fake their own death and take a vacation instead, but that never seems to happen, does it.


re: HP

It depends. We do know a bit about wizarding Britain outside of Hogwarts, so having our OCs be recent graduates would still be feasible - it'd allow for some of our own ideas while still giving us a canon foundation. We could even create a more lowkey, Muggle-focused version of the Order of the Phoenix, with Muggle-borns dedicated to protecting other Muggle-borns and Muggles. (I mean, there had to be more organizations fighting against Voldemort than OotP. OotP was probably just the flashiest and most well known due to the fact that Dumbledore was in it.)


re: TMI

True, but TMI is also written from the perspective of a human/Shadowhunter, so they wouldn't really know what's going on inside other werewolves'/vampires' minds. There's also the fact that if killing an alpha is pretty customary, people are going to get used to it - like "Oh, don't get too attached to this leader, because there'll be another one soon enough."

Okay, I guess it depends on the species, really. Some fit this universe more than others.


Death Note

Not sure what you mean by cop-off? Probably not Light's notebook, though - Ryuk's probably had his fill of the human world for another few centuries. I just mean that if someone found another Death Note (from another shinigami) and eventually learned more about it via the shinigami, then naturally they'd come to guess that the Death Note had been Kira's weapon of choice. The whole "heart attack" default kind of gives it away.

[Kurutto]

Pokémon

Haha, what? I never thought of any of these tropes. I was thinking of two Elite Four members having a good time and getting to know each other better.

Now, what about what I asked regarding Elite Four x Elite Four or Elite Four x Challenger? If we were to develop this idea, which one would you prefer?

Harry Potter

Both ideas sound good, with there being that foundation that makes it a Harry Potter RP, but still gives us flexibility with the plot and characters. The Muggle Order of the Phoenix sounds interesting, but does that mean they are aware of the magical happenings? Otherwise, it can be seen as just another police force.

The Mortal Instruments

That's an easy fix. Body language and language in general really tells a lot. It doesn't matter the perspective -- the author could still convey another character's feelings in different ways. But exactly! That mentality could be easily be more developed or made more clear to the reader. I mean, it's pretty clear that they seem accustomed to the practice, but it would be interesting to see more of what that does for them.

Death Note

I had not understood what you meant. You are saying that someone comes across another Death Note and figures that it must have been what Kira did? So they restart the whole Kira "dictatorship?"

[Wyndi]

re: Pokémon

lmao WELL...THERE'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US. Here I am, thinking about Scooby-Doo amateur hour or PokéCSI, while what you really meant was some good old bonding time. I can't believe myself.

I think E4/E4 makes more sense for a "getting to know each other" bit. But by itself, that doesn't sound very...compelling? What exactly were you planning to have this quality time consist of?


re: HP

My apologies, I should've been more clear. The organization would consist of (mostly) Muggle-born wizards/witches who are working together to protect other Muggle-borns and (of course) the Muggle community in general. Obviously the Statute of Secrecy still applies, so they'd be protecting Muggles in secret - Muggles should never know about the organization's operation, or only know about it via a cover (like your police force idea).


re: TMI

I don't recall Clary being particularly adept at noticing body language...or anything, really, in general. And since the story is told from her perspective, I'd take everything she says with a grain of salt - there's always been a lot that she misses or simply glosses over. Same reason that we don't learn more about pack mentalities: it's not relevant to Clary (even if it's relevant to the plot at large). It's not a mark of bad writing; it's simply indirect characterization for the person whose eyes we're seeing the world through.


re: DN

This was building off my Generation Kira idea - that someone from that era would pick up another Death Note and eventually realize how it ties into the Kira mythos (sudden unexplained heart attacks, no presence needed to kill, etc.). Since they grew up under that regime of fear, it's highly unlikely that they'd try to follow in Kira's footsteps.

[Kurutto]

Pokémon

Lmao, don't feel that way! Your mind sounds more creative than mine does at the moment. xD

Hmm, I do feel you, there... It sounds more of a slice of life as it stands. If we want to make it more involved, something akin to a trope might have to be employed.

Maybe the Elite Four is so bored, that when an organization claiming to be higher than the Elite Four aims to recruit our characters, perhaps at least one of them will fall for it. And then the other one has to go off and retrieve her "spacey" friend. Or, we can have both of them feel somewhat interested because of that boredom. The organization could send in a strong challenger to the Elite Four, who then beats your character as well as mine, thus solidifying potential trust in them.

As to what the organization really has in mind... We can discuss that if you like the sound of this idea so far.

Harry Potter

Ahh, I understand, now! Wow, I am actually pretty fond of this idea, now. The idea of secret protectors sounds sweet. Kind of like Muggles' guardian angels, right? The idea of a police force as a cover sounds great, too, like how Sirius' house looks different to Muggles than it does to wizards? Or the bus, too, from the Prisoner of Azkaban. Sorry, my memory is kind of bad, so my examples may be a bit off, haha.

The thing is, are they defending Muggles from the dangers of the magical world, or from Muggle-specific problems? Or is it a combination of both?

As for our characters, would we have one member of the society and one plain Muggle, or have both our characters in the society?

The Mortal Instruments

That's a good way of looking at it... I hadn't thought about that. It would be helpful to have a more reliable narrator, but sometimes unreliable narrators can make a book more interesting. I dig the unreliable narrator idea, but it would be better (in my opinion) if that just meant that the character was observing things differently than from what they actually are, instead of disregarding it all together.

Death Note

I see... But in that case, what would that person use the Death Note for?

[Wyndi]

re: Pokémon

Right. It's okay if we use a trope or two to get things moving; I'd just...prefer it not to be either of the ones I mentioned.

lmao what if the organization was actually one giant prank by another member of the e4 though In all seriousness, though, what's the tone we're going for? Knowing will help me cook up more appropriate ideas. I personally like darker or more realistic roleplays, so I wouldn't mind giving the organizaion a more nefarious motive that we can gradually reveal and bring into play.


re: HP

If we're still setting this during the Marauders era, then they're protecting Muggles and Muggle-borns from the gratuitous torture and destruction that we saw with Voldemort's second rise to power. As horrific as what we saw in the sixth and seventh books was, I think I remember one of the Order members saying that Voldemort's first rise to power had been even worse - especially because it lasted so much longer.

I'd prefer both of our OCs to be at least some degree involved with magic, because otherwise it'll feel like the Muggle OC just gets the short end of the stick and has to remain oblivious to everything. So I was thinking that one of us could play a witch (and member of the defense organization), while the other could play a Squib (so they'd know about magic, but rely on more Muggle defensive methods). They'd make a kick-ass pair!


re: DN

I'm...not sure, actually. I entertained the notion of them using it to tear down or get back at the government figures that are still manipulating the idea/image of Kira to their own ends - i.e. "Kira was terrible and a traumatizing figure to hold over our heads, and now you continue using his name and reputation to intimidate others without even understanding what kind of power Kira even wielded in the first place."

[Kurutto]

Pokémon

What's wrong with the tropes you mentioned? It sounds like you had awful experiences with them, somehow...

Oh my god, that would be funny, but a cheat xDD I am with you in that I prefer more heavy role-plays. I am totally up for a more nefarious motive.

By the way, I'm not going to lie... I got ahead of myself and revamped an old character and came up with my Elite Four character. I would love to actually get this kind of RP in action, if you are! Here's my character's profile. Click on the name to pull down all the details, if you're confused by the way it's formatted. Please tell me what you think.

Harry Potter

Ohh, your memory is perfect! It'll be interesting to see just how bad we can make the 1st Rise to Power be! Perhaps we can use our own henchmen instead of seeing Voldemort directly so much? Unless you think we should directly control him because of just how bad the 1st Rise allegedly was.

Good point!! Both magical, it is. I do like the idea of a kickass witch/squib trio, but would the squib still get the short end of the stick, as you said? How would being a squib be any different? Because they are more knowledgeable?

Death Note

Are we going to be assuming that the government is still actively supporting Kira, even though the end of Death Note indicated otherwise, that things gradually returned to normal?

[Wyndi]

re: Pokémon

No, I just think the whole only the worthy can find me thing is complete BS (and boring as hell to play out).

I'd rather plan a little bit more just so we have some concrete details about where we want the plot to head before we start. From experience, I've learned that not knowing at least the midway goal of an rp tends to lead to a lot of directionless posts, which in turn leads to all players involved losing interest. I'll take a look at your profile tomorrow, though, since I'm tired enough that I don't think I can stand a wall of text right now.

(btw I should mention that the OC I'm likely to use for most of these ideas so far is still in the slow cooker. I should be done revamping her soon, though.)


re: HP

Yeah, I'm thinking we'll work mostly with Death Eaters since I doubt our OCs would stand much of a chance against Voldemort at his peak.

A Squib still has magical items, including potions and knowledge, at their side. Certainly they'd have to find non-Muggle ways of protecting themselves, but you don't necessarily have to be a wand-user to actually utilize magic (see Hagrid, for example).


re: DN

Yes. I think that if we decided to do this one, we'd have to take a bit of license with the ending of the series.

[Kurutto]

Pokémon

Ahh, I see... Yeah, it doesn't sound like there's much of a point because clearly the other player is the "worthy" one, haha.

Concrete details are always a must! And I like your thinking about the midpoint. I don't have much experience in this area because I never successfully finished a role-play before! In order to come up with the midpoint, should we develop the organization more?

Perhaps they're kidnapping our characters for a certain trade... Though that might be too dark for the forums? Sorry about that... OTL Maybe they plan on killing our characters for whatever reason or ritual. Maybe a gang initiation thing, or something to do with the occult.

Perhaps, even, they kidnap them because they think they have certain information? And they might plan to torture them for that information. A case of mistaken identity? Or the opposite -- one of our characters (or the Elite Four as a whole) did something wrong.

Sure thing! When you read her, please give me some feedback. I'd like to know what you think!

(Haha, the slow cooker's a great expression. I can appreciate that! I can't wait to see her, though.)

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Harry Potter

Oooh, a chance to make Death Eater characters, too? Wyndi, I just might want to do two RPs with you, if that's alright with you. Both the Elite Four one and the Harry Potter one are compelling to me.

Ahh, that's true... Great example with Hagrid, too. It'll be interesting to see how our Squib friend will make do.

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Death Note

I'd rather not use licensing with the established canon ending, sorry about that. :/ Maybe we should drop this idea?

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Random thought RE: The Mortal Instruments Discussion

I was thinking about Clary's point of view, and I thought I would mention her artistic perspective. I vividly remember, in particular, a scene in the first book where Alec is talking to Jace, and Clary notes that Alec is so animated and "focused" while Jace is quite the opposite, being "blurry," and that that's how Clary would render a painting of them.

With this in mind, I don't think she would pass up any detail or ignore any interesting behavior. Because of this, I feel like it would have been cool if we got more into the werewolves with Clary. Sorry about that, just a thought. ^^