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Post by Rora on Jul 8, 2015 1:39:26 GMT
So I've been dyyyying to participate in a roleplay using the Persona 4 verse as a base setting. You do not necessarily need to have played the game to participate, but it would probably help! There will be key differences from the game due to this being a roleplay, but a lot of things will be similar too. This roleplay will take place in a high school setting. There will be an "alternate world" that our characters will need to explore, and ultimately face their "Shadow" selves in order to awaken to their Persona. Partially for the purpose of fairness, the Fool Arcana will be stripped of its super-special-snowflake status and instead will be equal to all the others. This is also because the story doesn't focus on any one character like the game does. Ideally, I'd like to have one character for each Arcana, but that would require a total of 20 characters so I don't see that happening. No two characters can share the same Arcana, so keep that in mind for when signups open. Arcana: Fool: Quinn (Wyndi) Magician: Al (Wyndi) Priestess: Empress: Yulia (Mini) Emperor: Victh (Rora) Hierophant: Lovers: Selir (Rora) Chariot: Aurelie (Mini) Justice: Hermit: Sela (Wyndi) Fortune: Zach (Mini) Strength: Sierra (Rora) Hanged Man: Xendio (Rora) Death: Temperance: Devil: Miranda (Wyndi) Tower: Star: Moon: Sun: Reu (Rora) Character Sheet: Name: Age: (15-17) Year: [First(Freshman) Second(Junior) or Third(Senior)] Gender: Orientation:
Arcana: Persona: Dungeon Theme: Weapon of choice:
Appearance:
Personality:
Other:
Now for the brainstorming part! There are a few ideas I've been considering but I want to see what any interested parties might think. First off, the setting. It's obviously still going to be a high school, but is there any preference for where the high school is located? It could possibly be some other town in Japan if we want to keep the gratuitous Japanese stuff, or alternatively it could just be in America somewhere. For the other world, instead of how television was used in the game, I was thinking of going with Social Media of some kind? There's lots of potential for all kinds of exaggerations, extra-nasty rumors, and other assorted craziness there. Plus it has the whole symbolic thing of your ~online persona~ you present to others vs. how you really are that the game likes to point out at every opportunity. I'm not sure about the kidnapping/rescue mission angle from the game. There would have to be some way for the characters to wind up in the other world to confront their shadow selves, so it would still be a rescue mission, but I haven't figured out a reason to get them in the other world in the first place. I don't want to go with Izanami here. Perhaps something like, when a given character receives a very personal, very threatening/scary/whatever email (possibly from their shadow self in some way? Like the world ~senses~ their insecurities and fears so that manifests and "consumes" them somehow, dragging them to the other world), THEY'RE NEXT. Perhaps it would take a few emails, each one worse than the last, before they actually enter the other world. And in the days leading up to it, they might start acting funny, depending on how they'd react to emails like that. And I mean emails with deep-seated stuff that nobody else could possibly know about. I'm not sure if I explained that very well. Now, regarding Persona. Your character's persona should obviously match their arcana. I'm willing to allow for a bit of wiggle room here, in the case where one arcana fits your character really well but a persona from a different arcana is a much better fit. I'm considering possibly allowing two Persona per character maximum, one "main" one and one that would be secondary. It would be optional, but it's also up to you guys if you want me to allow that or not. Comments? Questions? Ideas? Share! I'll put up character application forms once we get more of this figured out![/b]
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Post by Wyndi on Jul 8, 2015 3:16:49 GMT
omg i'm so ready for this
I have no preference re: setting. I'm not sure it'll make a big difference? Unless we specifically want our characters to suffer through enjoy Valentine's and cultural festivals and the ilk. I mean, hey, that stuff is part of the P4 package too....
A++ for the social media and the email ideas! I can see bystanders and/or Internet rumors pushing the email thing as a kind of creepypasta, where no one but the people involved takes it seriously. (Kind of like how others viewed the Midnight Channel as a means of finding your soul mate....What was up with that anyway?) I'm assuming people would enter the other world via their computer?
No opinion re: Personas either; I leave that in your much more knowledgeable hands.
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Post by Rora on Jul 9, 2015 3:01:24 GMT
YES CREEPYPASTA THING Okay, I was thinking a bit more about the Midnight Channel (idk Wyndi, high school kids are stupid) and how it was an indication that someone was missing and needed to be rescued... so I was thinking our version of the Midnight Channel could be a video file mass-emailed to every student in their class from a ~mysterious address~. Like, as the last step, coming after all the nasty texts/emails/etc. I was also thinking about the several rainy days leading up to the fog... we could keep that, because I like the symbolism of the fog and how it would apply here too. I was thinking about weird electrical activity in the area too, like power outages, power surges, weird glitches... I dunno. And yes on entering through the computer! As far as the setting goes, I'd prefer to keep it in Japan partly because the original game was and it just seems more appropriate? But it could work in America too and I just wanted to see what other people's opinions were. Same with the multiple Personas thing... I'm actually leaning against it now, where as before I kind of liked the idea. Our characters' Personas CAN evolve/change if a significant event occurs to prompt the change. TIME FOR ARCANA DISCUSSION I was gonna link this in the first post, but I was also gonna wait until applications were open, but I think it's important before then considering only one character of a given arcana is allowed. Arcana ListThis gives a list of each Arcana, and links to pages explaining specific arcana as well as personas that belong to that arcana. Again, I'll allow wiggle room here if your wanted persona isn't technically in your character's arcana, because the different games in the series move which arcana they belong to around anyway. So, are there any characters you guys DEFINITELY want to use? Because if there's more than one potential character for a given arcana, we're gonna have to work that out somehow. I really want to use Victh for sure, and he's typically Justice Arcana, but he can fit really well into Emperor too.
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Post by Wyndi on Jul 9, 2015 4:14:12 GMT
CREEPY VIRAL YOUTUBE VIDEOS YES "I told you the Internet was a scary place!" wailed every mom ever.Yes, let's keep the fog and rain bit! Maybe as things worsen over in the other world, the power outages/glitches/problems get worse over in the real world? So the team has to rescue the victim of the week before the power goes down for an extended period of time? (I can't remember if the P4 team ever entered the TV world when the TV wasn't connected to a power source, but I was thinking that the computer serving as the portal of entry needs to be powered. So no power --> inability to enter the other world --> inability to rescue the person trapped in the other world.) I'm fine with keeping the setting in Japan. re: ArcanaTHIS IS THE MOST DIFFICULT CHOICE OF MY LIFE because I only want to stick to OCs I've been keeping updated BUT I ALSO WANT TO USE ALL OF THEM?? I think I might use Miranda (Devil) and Sela (Hermit) at the very least, and Quinn if no one else wants to claim Fool.
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Post by Rora on Jul 9, 2015 21:57:41 GMT
Holy crap Wyndi, I don't even know half of those characters! We could practically fill the whole roster with just your characters. |D And if you want to use Pell or Savi, I'll add Judgement to the list too. Victh and Carys have the same Arcana and Persona, omg. That's hilarious. I miiight stick him in Emperor instead though. IT'S HARD TO PICK SOMETIMES I think I'll edit in names on the first post for an idea of who's gonna fill which Arcana, but they are NOT going to be set in stone. And actually I'm pretty sure they could enter the TV world even if the TV was off (as long as they could fit through it), it was pretty much the screen acting as a portal. But power outages preventing travel between the two sounds interesting! quietly plots everyone getting stuck in the other worldOKAY SO another thought: when time runs out to save someone in the other world, after the fog and all, their death is going to mysteriously look like/be ruled a suicide (I know this can potentially be a very iffy thing/trigger, so I won't necessarily go with it, but there will be nothing too descriptive when it occurs to the first few people), which will be blamed on cyber bullying re:the videos. If the suicide thing is going to bother anyone it is 100% out, but the cyber bullying angle will still be there.
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Post by Wyndi on Jul 10, 2015 1:43:36 GMT
hahAHA WELCOME TO MY OC VILLAGE.... But no, I'm good with leaving out Pell and Savi. And I definitely won't be using Carys (I'm in the middle of redesigning her), so you can do whatever with Victh. #JUSTICE4ALL
IMAGINE IF THEY'D TRIED TO ENTER THE TV WORLD VIA A THEATER TV....
Fine with the whole cyberbullying/suicide bit as well.
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Post by Rora on Jul 10, 2015 3:08:31 GMT
Just so you know I named the Lillipup I caught in Black Carys. I got a Patrat in the same spot and named him Victh. Ahhh you're so good at making characters though! Mine feel so inferior >///< And there are so few. I really need to work on them more, holy crap.
I CAN'T CHOOSE. I think ultimately Justice fits Victh the best, but I'll probably have his Persona be Barong (who is Emperor in P4) because SCREW THE RULES I MAKE THEM HERE.
Right now I'm trying to think about ways for our starting characters to 1)get into the world in the first place and 2)awaken to their Personas so they have a chance to fight back against the shadows. That way they could start to figure out things from there, and we'll add more characters to the roster as the RP goes on and they get rescued. NO CREEPY GAS STATION ATTENDANTS
I seriously can't wait for the whole facing-your-shadow thing. I have shadows for some of my characters all planned out already because it's fun to be so mean to them
ANY THOUGHTS, MINI?
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Post by Mini on Jul 10, 2015 3:10:40 GMT
OKAY SO IT'S TAKEN ME LIKE TWO WHOLE DAYS...TO POST...nbd
Love the ideas and everything that has been discussed so far! Look @ my great contribution.
The whole power outages and time running out is also a+ i am totally ok with that idea. As for PERSONAS...I have an entire three personas probably set for my millions of characters (read: tens) aurelie - chariot, yulia - empress, and zach - fortune. that's all i have figured out because i am working a lot and constantly exhausted. so we will stick to those losers for now :3c
eta: give me like a day and maybe i'll come up with an idea for how we can start them entering the world/awakening their personas? maybe one of them has the unfortunate experience of being pulled in first and is like 'holy shit guys LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED...' and then it becomes more and more prevalent etc?
this is terrible /lays down
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Post by Wyndi on Jul 10, 2015 5:51:20 GMT
omg Carys the Lillipup....So beautiful. ;u; I'm happy you thought of her. But anyways, despite having an entire village, I only ever use a handful? I think I've used Edmund ONCE in the three years he's been running about. So it's better to have three or four OCs you're happy about playing rather than twenty that you've relegated to the last-resort pile. Sorry, Edmund....
lmao true I totally forgot at least one person needs an established Persona to fight back in the first place. If the Fool isn't a special snowflake anymore, are our plucky youngsters doomed? /dramatic music/
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Post by Mini on Jul 10, 2015 23:53:36 GMT
Yeah! We need the one to be like 'listen this is why these things are happening' so they can then form the #squad honestly yeah with the amounts of characters i have, i tend to use the same few because i am usually the most inspired for those. lots of old ones just kind of fade out...
also our plucky youngsters can handle it i bet. i hope.
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Post by Wyndi on Jul 11, 2015 3:15:56 GMT
Curious (since it looks like it's pretty much going to be us three and possibly saf in here) - is there any one of my OCs that y'all would like to see in here? It looks like we might be busy planning for a while longer anyways, so I'd have time to bring an non-updated OC up to speed. I actually was going to ask if I could use U'ilani, but then realized she was also Chariot. a+ planning
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Post by Rora on Jul 11, 2015 3:23:23 GMT
actually I looked at the arcana stuff again and Victh is definitely 100% Emperor
Okay so! The big thing here about needing a Persona to even fight back against the shadows is that 1)I don't want to deny anybody the chance to actually face their own shadow. it's my favorite part okay ;-; and 2)It doesn't really work with the established rules of the universe (see below) so this is a big catch-22 situation.
I'm thinking the only way to get a Persona to awaken without a battle here would be for the character to pretty much accept it right away, kind of rendering their shadow's existence moot in the first place??? Or if they just didn't HAVE a shadow manifest itself, which doesn't make any sense. So I'd say that route gets a little too close to Mary-Sue territory. Yu's just kind of ~manifested~ itself because of Izanami's magical touchy-feely thing.
One way we could handle this is that our first group of poor unfortunate youngsters to get sucked into the other world would still encounter their shadow selves, probably freak out a bit, but obviously wouldn't really be able to do anything about it. Before anyone gets murder-killed they'd be transported to the Velvet Room, which would give Igor a chance to explain some things (in that not-quite-actually-explaining-anything way of his). Margaret could then probably do the actual beatdown to calm the shadows down, at which point the characters could begin to accept them and would then have their Personas! \o/
I like Al! (so does Selir) Yeah I'm sorry about the one-per-arcana thing, that's why it's here for planning! D: You'd have to talk to mini about it I guess, if maybe one of the two could be squished into another arcana.
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Post by Wyndi on Jul 11, 2015 3:39:06 GMT
"All hail Emperor Victh!" Ellie shouts as she rains down flower petals on him.
Yeah, I would like everyone to have a shadow! tbh though, I will say Quinn is super likely to have the least trouble accepting his, so if we need someone to lead the way, I volunteer him. He even has a Nanako in his life! It was meant to be!
Okay, I'll dust off Al (Magician) then! As for U'ilani, don't worry, I'm not particularly fussed about bringing her in. She comes as part of a set anyway, and I'm not sure if Mini wants to stick U'ilani's gf in this.
edit tbh I totally forgot about this: "An ongoing theme that is related to all Magician Arcana Social Links is the tragedy that befalls the social link character related to their romantic interest." EVERYONE AVOID AL LIKE THE PLAGUE.
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Post by Rora on Jul 11, 2015 3:51:54 GMT
Victh gets all flustered at the petals but secretly likes the attention
Quinn can be part of the group that we start with then! I want one character for everyone to play when they go to the other world for the first time/when we start, because I don't want anyone to be left out for who knows how long.
Sounds like Selir belongs in Tower after all. :'C
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Post by Wyndi on Jul 11, 2015 4:03:10 GMT
It was either petals or apples, and petals hurt less.
I feel bad but I literally had to look up the Tower Arcana because I never unlocked that route in P4. "Human characters of the Tower Arcana can be arrogant, and typically find themselves in bad situations where they themselves have fallen from grace." SELIR WHY THIS
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